tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9367921.post111772002369451896..comments2024-03-12T11:58:30.386-06:00Comments on La Bloga: On Ramos's "Latino Crime Spree" pieceContributing Bloguistas:http://www.blogger.com/profile/13054190814722049711noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9367921.post-11129990318276922392009-06-25T20:46:27.582-06:002009-06-25T20:46:27.582-06:00I agree with what you say that kids are learning m...I agree with what you say that kids are learning more these days than parents, yet the older generation still has to look down upon certain individuals. <br /><br />I think you make some good points about how 'white America' treats the Latino/Chicano cultures. I am white, but I see many problems with the way that whites view and perceive people of Latino or Hispanic descent. <br /><br />In this class I am taking over the summer we discussed how Latino and Hispanic people are wrongly represented on the local news stations. Most news stories about Latinos of Hispanics involved the before mentioned groups committing crimes. That stigma has the ability to stick, whereas caucasian people don't attract that stigma for some reason. It's very befuddling.The Fantasy Worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09775388695346023626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9367921.post-1117800197132617442005-06-03T06:03:00.000-06:002005-06-03T06:03:00.000-06:00Like Sedano, said, it used to be us and them. Toda...Like Sedano, said, it used to be us and them. Today, it seems like it's more some of them and some of us on on a progressive path, and some of theirs and some of ours on a self-destructive path.<BR/><BR/>[Chicanos/Hispanics fits the us/ours dichotomy, in a limited sense, since Chicano includes a political statement and many browns on the right choose to call themselves Hispanic. (No, I'm not proposing we start that debate here.)]<BR/><BR/>That plus Sedano's dichotomy--and there are others--are just part of human nature. Some of the Spanish-speaking reject the colonizer, some would like to be like the colonizer.<BR/><BR/>But the forced emigration of <I>mexicanos </I>isn't going to leave the colonizer (and aspiring applicants) to rule in peace. There's an old tribe in town, in new numbers. History will get to "like it or not." <BR/><BR/>You state, "I'd rather talk about progressive options and enlightened reactions - from Chicanos and anyone else - to what is going on today."<BR/><BR/><I>Simón</I>, that sounds like a good plan. Let me pull up <I>una silla y un agavero</I> and join you. Anyone else up for one?<BR/><BR/>RudyGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9367921.post-1117746078014710062005-06-02T15:01:00.000-06:002005-06-02T15:01:00.000-06:00Our word for white people was "The Americans". My ...Our word for white people was "The Americans". My parents and grandparents referred to the whites as "Los Americanos", so the distinction comes with some pedigree, que no? The reference speaks volumes about where our minds were for generations, as well as accurately describing where we fit in school and in town. Since some Americans still think of themselves as the only ones, maybe there's life in that ol' dichotomy after all. <BR/><BR/>mvsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9367921.post-1117727460949660962005-06-02T09:51:00.000-06:002005-06-02T09:51:00.000-06:00As usual, dude, you make some good points. Still, ...As usual, dude, you make some good points. Still, here's why this is depressing, for me at least. Your analysis relies on the old Us/Them dichotomy, and that's a sad state of affairs - after thousands of years of existence we continue to resort to picking sides. Our reasons for doing so may be self-preservation or something else just as legitimate, given the current political conditions, but there it is - my tribe is tougher/cooler/better than yours. You and Mr. Dorado are correct to observe that "like it or not" the world is changing and, again sadly, some of those who are losing their grip because of the changing world are reacting in a belligerent, hostile way. I'd rather talk about progressive options and enlightened reactions - from Chicanos and anyone else - to what is going on today. So that's why I didn't write the essay. That's not to say that we don't point out the problems and issues and conflicts - you do a great job of that - just that on a particular day, when I was in a particular mood, I thought I'd take a different route.<BR/><BR/>ManuelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com